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[00:05:29] Speaker F: Good morning, I'm Dr. Kerry Gelb and welcome to Wellness 1280 on Open youn Eyes Radio. Please listen as I discuss the newest information in the world of health, nutrition and sports every Saturday morning, 6am Central Time on AM 1280 the Patriot. Also, please share your thoughts by emailing me at doctor carry go gmail.com that's D R K E R Y G LB gmail.com and visit my new website, wellness1280.com where we have all guest links, Wellness 1280 info and previous shows. Wellness is taking over the Patriot Airway for the next hour. Sit back and enjoy part two of my interview with concussion expert Dr. Evan Mladinov. So in the part one we talked about sports and how concussions affect about 1% of kids that play sports and the problems with rushing kids back too soon from concussions. So today we want to talk a little bit about what we could do to help these people. I just want to remind you that Dr. Mladinov his book doc, when can my kid play?
Something I've read, you know, highlighted, I've read the whole book and I have a 14 year old kid that plays baseball and baseball is a sport where people do get concussions and that we have to worry about it, although the biggest sports are football and soccer. So Dr. Milanov, welcome back to Open your Eyes Radio and podcast with Dr. Kerry Gill.
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[00:07:10] Speaker F: So last time we were talking about all different ways people get concussions. We talked about boxing, we talked about Muhammad Ali, we talked about some of the football players who actually committed suicide and really became crazy from repeated concussions. Now the NFL and sports is trying to make things more safe. But is the helmet enough to prevent people from getting concussions? Or they also get concussions from the head being twisted and turned similar to like a car accident where where that where you get sort of a whiplash.
[00:07:51] Speaker C: That is an awesome question. So helmet technology has dramatically changed over the past decade, at least if not longer.
So we have to ask the question what is the purpose of a helmet? And the purpose of a helmet in my humble opinion is is to prevent fracture of the skull.
It's not going to produce the big lie nobody wants to talk about. It's not going to stop the sloshing around of your brain, that jello object inside your Head. In fact, to your point, the helmet might accelerate that because now you've got extra weight on the head that can catapult the jello inside to move even faster and farther. So that reminds me of a story. We had this player quite a few years ago, and he had chronic neck pain that I just couldn't seem to get under control.
And I said, this is before the Chiefs hired me. I said, you know what, can you bring your helmet in and let me look at your helmet? He says, yeah, doc, why? I said, well, there's something I can fix. You. You put on your helmet and it's like stuff comes undone. Well, at that time, he had this. He was a defensive back and he had this huge cage on with two little slits for his eyes. Basically he looked like, you know, crow magnet man with all his stuff. The bottom line is his helmet weighed seven pounds.
So he was running around with a seven pound weight on his head that was causing his head and his neck to have to work harder. But that's before he even hit anybody. So all we did was we said, okay, let's say I want you to go to the training staff and see, you know, can you get another helmet that weighs less?
So he goes and does that. He calls me and he says, yeah, we got two options. There's one that's five pounds and one that's four pounds. I said, well, just pick one. Either one's going to be better than what you're wearing now. Well, he said all the one that was five pounds, it fit better. He liked the cage and he could do the stuff that he did with his other helmet. And, and almost instantaneously, the neck paint started going away just be from the weight of the helmet. So again, you know, the helmet is going to. No matter what materials they use. And you see all these funny shapes now, some of the helmets in the games and there's different holes and venting and whatnot, so that the, the. The graphite bends and moves in different directions. But the bottom line is you have this weight on the head, it's still going to make the head catapult and move more. And it's not going to prevent the brain from sloshing around inside your head.
[00:10:21] Speaker F: In your book, you made a point that of who is at greater risk of getting a concussion, the one taking the hit or the one giving the hit in football? Can you talk about that?
[00:10:32] Speaker C: Yeah. It's curious. You see these and you can do a YouTube search and see the worst hits in the NFL or worst hits in the NHL.
Don't let me forget to tell you about the Eric Lindro story.
And you see these horrendous hits and you see after the hit, the guy giving the hit gets up and goes back to the huddle like nothing happened.
So the guy giving the hit statistically shown to have less of a concussion or less concussions or less problems than the person receiving the concussion. And that's why the NFL came up with the defenseless position of the player to try and protect the players.
But I'm reminded one of the first games I was at, I'm in the locker room and the Denver Broncos beat us. It was a Monday night game and coach Marty Schottenheimer came in the locker room and he said, gentlemen, I want you to remember one thing. Unless you want to make a donation to the NFL tonight from your post game comments, it's only holding if the referee says it's holding.
So, you know, is there still, we see in the games that happened this weekend, it's still suspect. Well, was that head to head contact? It's still somebody's judgment call.
But that didn't stop the hit from happening. That's not going to stop the brain from moving. It's only is that one team going to get a penalty for that or is the guy going to get thrown out of the game?
[00:11:50] Speaker F: So talk to me about the Eric Lindrum story.
[00:11:54] Speaker C: So the, the, the beauty of this is a story in hockey. In hockey, you're always told, skate with your head up so you can see what's coming at you. Well, Lindros, from the day he put out skates, he was the biggest kid on the rink. He was a large man. Six, four, two, four. That's huge for a hockey player. He didn't have to lift his head because he was like a bowling ball. He could just roll over people and they couldn't stop him until Scott Stevens. So if you search Scott Stevens, Eric Lindrose hip, you'll see Lindros coming across center, raising the blue line. And then Scott Stevens literally stands him up. It's a shoulder to shoulder hip. So Lindros's head did not hit anything before he hit the ice. He was unconscious. So the moral of that story is, number one, hockey players should skate with their head up. But number two, you don't have to hit your head to get a concussion or lose consciousness.
[00:12:48] Speaker F: Wow, that's a, that's a, that's a very interesting story. So talk to me because we're in part two for maybe people that didn't listen to part one about the symptoms that people have with concussion, the main symptoms, okay?
[00:13:01] Speaker C: So again, remember what they don't tell you in ER, you might not get symptoms for 72 to 96 hours. And there are four major areas of symptoms. Now, the.
I got to choose my words carefully here, Doc. You know, the great thrust has been cognitive symptoms. Everybody's worried about cognitive symptoms. You know, can he. Can he think? What's he working like, can he go back to school? Can he read? Right. Well, yes, you can have mental, intellectual, or cognitive symptoms. And it can range from, you know, brain fog, difficulty concentrating, trouble remembering things. You may repeat answers or repeat questions or repeat stories and stuff. But you can also have physical symptoms like headaches, like neck pain. You can have dizziness, you can have nausea, you can have vomiting. Right? But then you can also have emotional symptoms. Excuse me. So when I had my head trauma, I was the worst patient because I didn't do what I tell everybody else to do. So I'm working here now. The good news is my personal position was never more than 10ft away from me, my son. And so when I was working on patients, if I couldn't remember the location of an acupuncture point, something I'd probably done a million times, or I couldn't remember how to do a test, I would go from zero to like, full blown violent, angry, emotionally. And so Dr. Chip would come and say, take it easy, we can look it up. Just tell me what you can remember. And by the way, you're done for the day. And he take me to treatment room, turn off the lights, put some dark glasses on me, put me on an oxygen machine and said, okay, you're done. You probably shouldn't have worked today. But the point of that is, is that you can have physical symptoms that then trigger emotional symptoms. And so they call it getting hangry. Right? You get. You get angry when you get hunger pains. Well, it's that exact same reaction in a concussion. You can have emotional outrages for no reason at all. We're up against the break.
[00:15:03] Speaker F: I'm speaking with Dr. Evan Mladinov. His book, Doc, when Can My Kid Play About Concussions? Everybody wants to know when they could go back to play. Great book. Recommended highly. Here's a picture of it. Go out and get his book. This is Dr. Kerry. Go for Open youn Eyes radio. We'll be back after the break.
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[00:18:25] Speaker F: His book Doc, When Can My Kid Play?
And before the break we were talking about symptoms of concussion. So if you could continue with that for us.
[00:18:35] Speaker C: Okay. So one of the biggest symptom areas where people ignore is sleep issues. So you probably heard the, the, the ancient moniker like you have a, you had a concussion. Don't let him fall asleep.
Now you're hearing okay, rest as much as possible. Let him sleep if he's okay. So you can have all kinds of bizarre things like drowsiness, you can't fall asleep, you can't stay asleep. You sleep longer than you used to, you just can't get up all day long. You're sleeping 20 hours a day. So you can have all different bizarre patterns of sleep issues, but everybody ignores those. They don't even pay attention to those. And so that's important because a number of studies shown that if you sleep less than six hours a day, you add a year to your recovery.
That's pretty powerful.
[00:19:24] Speaker F: So is it true that if you get a concussion, you shouldn't be allowed to sleep? They got to keep the kid up, person up.
[00:19:31] Speaker C: Okay, so there's two parts of that. If there's, if there's a life threatening situation, okay, you should be an ER and they're going to control things, have monitors all over the place. But the average person where let's say they just got some neck pain, they might have some dizziness, they feel off, it's not going to be a problem to have them fall asleep. The bigger problem is, remember the edge of the cliff thing we talked about last show at the Grand Canyon? The bigger problem, excuse me, you'll see when you come into our clinic.
We have a lot of patients that are sitting there and they got earphones on, they get dark glasses on, they might have a hoodie on. And that's because they don't want any sensory stimulation to their body because it makes their symptoms Worse. So if we, if we have time, in the last show I think we talked about, how do you know you're at the edge of the cliff and what should you start to do or not to do? And we talked about that simple test where you take your pulse for about 15 seconds, then just try reading a page of a book and see, okay, does your pulse rate go up? Well, if your pulse rate goes up 15 points, then it's like, okay, that's too much. So wait a day, take your pulse now, read half a page and see if you still get your pulse going up. Right. So you got to find that if you don't have anybody guiding your care, that's how you can start guiding your own return to activity care. One of the biggest things I always tell patients, especially young kids, is do not sleep with your cell phone under your pillow because you have radiation coming out of your cell phone. And that radiation can keep re irritating your brain. So you should have your cell phone at least 10 foot away from your brain when you're sleeping. Sorry. So back to the pulse test. It's a little bit harder when you want to start to do some physical activity. So when you start back physical activity, you have to know what your resting heart rate is. And there are six stages of return to play or return to physical activity that we counsel patients on. And so the first one is if you're having symptoms, especially head symptoms, you're not doing any physical activity. Like, don't blow them off. If you're having headaches, if you're having eye sensitivity, if you have a dizziness, you're not going to return to any physical activity until you've got at least 24 hours with no symptoms like that, then the next thing is, okay, we have to slowly challenge your body. So we're not going to do stuff that moves your head. We have to do stuff that increases your heart rate a little bit. Because increasing your heart rate is going to increase the blood supply to the brain. And we need to see, okay, can you tolerate that?
And so the perfect thing would be first again, taking your pulse. Go for a 10 minute walk, see what nice casual, relaxed walk, see what happens to your pulse. If your pulse, pulse shoots up, you know, okay, that's too much activity. I can't do that.
If you were a world class and professional athlete, doc, how much do you increase your workout program? And the dirty secret is these people only change one parameter of their workouts 10%.
So they would increase the duration of a workout 10% or they would increase the intensity 10% or they would increase the number of repetitions 10%. They would not increase each one of those 10%. Right. Because your, your, your body does not like change. And that's what athletes do. The more they abuse themselves, the better they get. Under one condition, you got to recover from yesterday's abuse. Right. So they only change very small parameters in their workouts to move their body forward. So you have to keep that in the back of your mind. After a concussion, we're only going to change small parameters that move you back.
[00:23:18] Speaker F: So as we continue. So what are things that you want people to do or that they do to be able to treat a concussion? Let's talk about treatment of a concussion and what can be done.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: Okay, so remember, there's five possible areas of injury. So there's neuroinflammation, a metabolic cascade. Those are chemical reactions. Then there's the cervical spine, your neck, then there's your vestibular system. Those are both physical reactions. And then there's a pituitary stock. Some of that might be hormonal and some of that might be physical. One of the most common things is young ladies within three months of having a concussion. Over 60% of them had problems with their menstrual cycle within three months of having a concussion. Now, that's no big deal for a 16 year old or a 14 year old, but it's a red flag. Something's wrong.
And there's been studies again that have shown that don't reach the general practitioner, that a year after a concussion, 20 year olds have erectile dysfunction and sexual dysfunction a year after, but that's so long after the concussion, they're going to blow it off and say, oh, there's something wrong with me. They wouldn't even think of considering it being for the concussion. And so now the literature is saying if they're continuing to have symptoms a year out, then evaluation of the pituitary gland should be warranted. But you know, the average field doctor is not going to know this stuff because it takes so long for research to get to the doctor's office.
Right.
[00:24:57] Speaker F: So with the pituitary gland, they're going to have trouble with hormones.
[00:25:01] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:25:02] Speaker F: Cortisol, they're going to have stress hormones, testosterone problems.
[00:25:06] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:25:07] Speaker F: These are things that could affect, that can affect when you're having a concussion. Let's talk about, we're trying to get better. They have a concussion. Let's talk about nutrition. What kind of nutrition is recommended? Melatonin, curcumin, what exercise what are the things that could help with somebody as they're rehabbing, trying to get back from a concussion? So we're two, three weeks in, some of the symptoms are gone, but we don't want to have the kid play yet. What are the things that we could do?
[00:25:37] Speaker C: Okay, awesome, awesome question. So you have to eat something every day. So the brain does better on a keto style diet. Meaning. And that's true all the time.
So you want to shift towards a keto style diet. Higher protein, less carbs.
So that's easy to do. You can start to do that now. There is a caveat to this, and that is I just wrote an article for our, for our one hour free seminar that we're going to do, and that is histamine can hijack your brain. So if you, if your son, he's 14, right, playing baseball, so if he's got allergies and he goes and plays baseball, he, he's. There's a high probability he might have histamine already circulating in his bloodstream before he even plays.
Then he hits his head, then that histamine level now becomes totally elevated, even more. And so if that's the case, then if you're not under the care of a practitioner and you're using some over the counter medication, there are things you need to do in that is you need to start looking at, okay, what foods are high in histamine. You need to start eliminating those foods from your diet. And of course, this is for that special segment of the population that has allergies and then they get a concussion to boot. So that's like a whole separate issue. Right. So keto diet is the first best thing.
[00:27:00] Speaker F: That's very interesting.
[00:27:01] Speaker C: And then, then the histamine group is another group.
[00:27:03] Speaker F: Let me interrupt you for a minute. What foods are high in histamine?
[00:27:07] Speaker C: Okay. This is my favorite because my wife loves these two avocados and eggplant.
Whoa. It's like, good thing my wife's out of hearing. Right? She can't hear me say that.
But you know, those are high. And you just do a Google search, food's high in histamine, you'll get a whole bunch of stuff. Right? Right. So, so you just need to. Now some of those people know, okay, if I eat shellfish, I can go into anaphylactic shock and I gotta have an ep, other stuff. Okay. But your, your concussion finds you where your body's at. And so if you have a history of allergies and a history of high histamine in your body, then you need to make sure you get the histamine dealt with as part of your concussion recovery. So now the. The other, you know, big thing is it's actually two parts, and that's part of the metabolic cascade and neuroinflammation is elevated cortisol.
There's a great study that showed that every Alzheimer's patient has elevated cortisol. Now, they don't have Alzheimer's. The Alzheimer's did not give them the elevated cortisol. They have Alzheimer's because they have elevated cortisol.
The elevated cortisol drives you towards that dementia, Alzheimer's spectrum. Well, that's one of the biggest things. So we developed a nutritional product to deal with this. I went to about 10 different nutrition companies and said, can you make this stuff for me? And all them turned me down. So I started my own nutrition company that we deal with. We only have six products, and they're all geared towards recovery from brain function.
[00:28:41] Speaker F: So what's in those products? Tell us.
[00:28:43] Speaker C: Okay, so. So our number one selling product is something called I stressed out. And the main ingredient of that is something called phosphatidylserine. And it literally modulates cortisol down.
You can bring someone out of a panic or an anxiety attack by chewing some of that stuff, you know, four or five tabs every couple hours, and you'll bring them out of an anxiety and panic attack.
[00:29:07] Speaker F: How about the difference between phospholcysteine and phosphatidylcholine?
[00:29:11] Speaker C: Okay, okay. So there is. There is some phosphatidylcholine in there also. And there is some phosphatidyl inositol in there. So we've got three different phosphatidal factors to it, even though serine is the most powerful one.
[00:29:26] Speaker F: And how about curcumin?
[00:29:28] Speaker C: Okay, so we develop a product called i6 Factor. There are nine nociceptive irritants that cause inflammation. One is cortisol, one is the bad fats, one is lactic acid, which typically gives you burning pain. And then there's six other things. So from a business standpoint, we had something to deal with the I cortisol with the cortisol, but then we needed something to deal with the inflammatory things, so we call it i6 factor. There's something in there to deal with the six other factors. Curcumin is one of those.
[00:30:00] Speaker F: We're speaking with Dr. Evan Mladenoff, the Kansas City Clinic. Mladenoff Clinic in Kansas City. His book Doc, when can my kid play? We'll be back right after the break.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: I went to the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that this problem affects more than 40% of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease is getting worse. Perhaps it's getting worse because of kids prolonged time spent playing with smartphones or maybe because kids now spend less less time outside. My genetics probably aren't helping her a whole lot being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called My Sight. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the US it is proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I Recommend you visit openyoureyesradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn
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[00:32:21] Speaker A: I went to the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that this problem affects more than 40% of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease is getting worse. Perhaps it's getting worse because of kids Prolonged time spent playing with smartphones or maybe because kids now spend less time outside. My genetics probably aren't helping her a whole lot. Being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called MySite. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the US it is proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I Recommend you visit openyoureyesradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn more at Open youn Eyes.
[00:33:24] Speaker F: We're speaking with Dr. Evan Mladinor. He has a clinic in Kansas City. There's also one in Arizona that is daughter runs and his book Doc, When Can My Kid Play? That's what we're talking about. We're talking about concussions. When can your kid play? So we were talking about nutrition and supplements. We talked a little bit about curcumin, phosphate, phosphatidyl, serine. And let me ask you about melatonin. Melatonin has been recommended by some people for concussion. What you're feeling about that?
[00:33:57] Speaker C: Okay, so if you watch tv, by the end of the day you could probably buy 500 different nutrients that they're advertising on TV for this or that or the other thing. So, you know, what's the purpose of taking melatonin? Well, if it's to improve sleep, then okay, why are you not sleeping? Is it because you have elevated cortisol at bedtime? So if you take melatonin, elevated cortisol is not going to change at all. It won't change it. Melatonin is also a brain neurotransmitter. So if you're deficient in one neurotransmitter in the brain, you could be deficient in other neurotransmitters. So it's unfortunately, it's not as simple as this for that. Now in a pinch, you're in the middle of nowhere. You have nobody to help. You don't have Internet service that you can hear a radio show like this. And you know, you can't go buy books because the bookstore won't ship to your place, you're so remote. Then they'd say, okay, try some melatonin. You know, it's the old story, throw enough spaghetti against the wall, enough's gonna stick. But that's not the prudent way to approach dealing with a concussion because you can get rid of symptoms, but the concussed brain will still be there. The problem is you might not find out for 10 years down the road.
[00:35:05] Speaker F: Omega threes, you feel the same way or should everybody be that had concussion? They'd be taken Omega threes, okay?
[00:35:11] Speaker C: So our brain is basically fat and we need fat in our brain. So omega threes are really good. But actually the DHA component is a little more important because that deals with memory. Now, some people do that really well. So when I had my concussion. Excuse me, the Dr. Chip and Dr. Nana put me on a product that has EPA and DHA in it, but higher for the DHA component because of memory. And I could not tolerate that.
It started irritating my gut. I started gaining weight, I started getting more angry, and we couldn't figure it out and we just said, okay, just stop it. And then those symptoms started going away. So some, some people can tolerate it, some people cannot. Theoretically, yes. Everybody needs it. Even if you haven't had a concussion.
[00:35:57] Speaker F: We'Re talking about treatment for concussion. How about hyperbaric oxygen? Have you seen any? Anybody that's had it? Has it been helpful?
[00:36:04] Speaker C: We had one of the first hyperbaric chambers in Kansas City a long, long time ago. And so you'll look at the research and the research says, well, we don't know. And research always concludes to do more research.
That's what research is. Repeatedly searching for, the same thing over and over again. Right, exactly. But it's like. Okay, let me ask you three questions, Doc. How long can you live without food?
Not too long. Well, somebody can fast a year. I wouldn't recommend it, but you know, there's lots of people that do 24 hour fasts and stuff like that.
[00:36:40] Speaker F: Excuse me, I thought you meant me personally.
[00:36:43] Speaker C: Okay, well, no, I can't go that long without food either. Okay, so how long can a human being. Let's. Let's put that cabin. And how long can a human being go without water?
[00:36:52] Speaker F: I've understood. Like you said, a year for someone. People have fasted.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: Right. How long can you go without oxygen?
[00:36:58] Speaker F: Right. Minutes.
[00:36:59] Speaker C: Minutes.
[00:37:00] Speaker F: Right.
[00:37:01] Speaker C: So. So our brain is in a resting state. You and I are resting now, compared to hard physical labor. Our brain's burning up 20% of the oxygen we're breathing in through our mouth. So it is a oxygen rich environment. Why would you not want to increase the oxygen environment of your body and especially your brain? So I would say a minimum of 75% of the patients we see, we put in the chamber. Now, part of that is if they're claustrophobic, you know, if they're young, it can be a little scary in there for some people. And then we have. This is our fourth different chamber. So we have an upright chamber as opposed to the one that is laying down. The horizontal one. That horizontal one. Some patients get the feeling like they're in a coffin. And it's like, okay, let's get the upright one.
And so it is fabulous. And again, 75% of our patients, as long as they can tolerate going into the chamber, they do. They do really well. And it speeds up the recovery dramatically.
[00:37:57] Speaker F: How about meditation?
[00:37:59] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. Okay, so now I'm going to give you two caveats. There's two studies that were done if you're familiar with qigong. Qigong is a form of traditional Chinese medicine. It's not a. Like a meditation, but it's purposeful movement to attract the laws of the universe for your own specific gain, whether it's your heart, your liver, your head, or whatever it might be. So they did a story on that, research on that. They showed that there was a moderate improvement. Now back to meditation. The reason why meditation works so well, one of the nerves that gets injured dramatically is your vagus nerve. And so in a concussion, most people are. There's two parts to our nervous system. We have the para sympathetic and the sympathetic. So basically, fight or flight, or you're relaxing, there's. There's lots more little pieces that. But those are the two big pieces. Most people in concussion, they're like, again, on the edge of the cliff. They're in fight or flight. They're wired. They have very little tolerance. They go from zero to hangry. They get, you know, belligerent, pain increases. Right. So meditation raises function of the parasympic, the calming, relaxing part of your nervous system. It is. It is dramatic and some form of that. Patients say, well, I'm not going to do that because I'm not, you know, into Chinese medicine. I'm not a yogi. Well, so when I come back to them is like, do you pray to your creator, whoever you think that is? Oh, yeah, I pray every day. Well, that's a form of meditation. Right. And whatever you. Your prayer of the day is like, I have a ritual I go through every day. I, you know, I have morning prayers and I have evening prayers that are the same, and then I have extra prayers on top of that. So that's like meditation. That is absolutely essential. People can start. It doesn't cost you anything to go pray. It doesn't cost you anything to just go in a room, turn off all the lights, turn off all the sound and do nothing and listen to your own heartbeat. And having said that, there's a ton of stuff you can find out on YouTube. How to, you know, do tai chi, how to do meditation, how to whatever if you're not doing anything. But I, I encourage people to do that. Even if you haven't had a concussion, that will just make your body and your longevity do so much better.
[00:40:16] Speaker F: Is an epilepsy medicine, Lamictal, an old medication. Have you had any experience with that and how have patients done with that?
[00:40:26] Speaker C: I have not had any experience of that with concussions, but I have with patients that afiberal seizures, some epilepsy seizures.
And I'm here to tell you it's a 50, 50 crapshoot. Some patients, it changes them. Some patients, they once in a while it works. In other patients it absolutely changes nothing.
[00:40:51] Speaker F: And MCT oil, we talked about keto MCT oil.
[00:40:56] Speaker C: Okay, what's MCT oil?
[00:40:59] Speaker F: So medium chain triglycerides.
[00:41:04] Speaker C: Ah, okay. So yes, that can be beneficial. Now there's a bunch of stories now that are coming out about using marijuana and marijuana derivatives. And what they're finding now is that the, the opioid receptors in the brain are more receptive to marijuana than they are to opioids. Like when you exercise, you get the high of exercise. And so what ends up happening is those opioid receptors get flooded with the marijuana receptors and then they become addicted to the marijuana stuff and it doesn't the brain shunts stuff and it no longer helps the concussion.
[00:41:39] Speaker F: So marijuana good or you would say marijuana is good or bad or is it helpful a little bit or stay away from it?
[00:41:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I personally would stay away from it for lots of reasons. Number one, we don't know the long term sequelae.
Number two, as a drugless practitioner, if I recommend a drug and they haven't classified that yet, you know, I could jeopardize my license. So I, I, you know, follow things very closely that way. And then the other is just from, you know, an intellectual curiosity, it's like, okay, we have to resort to that because it's fast and quick and inexpensive. Surely there's got to be a better way we can evaluate this. So you have several different reasons that I prefer to not do it. I have patients that do do it and get some benefit from it. And you know, as long as they keep me in the loop of what they're doing to their body while we're working on them, it's not a problem.
[00:42:36] Speaker F: How about when you start exercising again? To increase bdnf, brain derived neurotrophic factor. So when can we start that? When could the person start that who's had a concussion?
[00:42:51] Speaker C: Okay, so that. This is the new emerging science of neuroplasticity, which is fancy doctor talk for nerves that fire together, wire together. Right. So athletes do this along all the time. They learn a new skill, you know. Why was Peyton Manning so good as a quarterback? Because three hours before kickoff he was out shorts and a T shirt with his wide receivers and they were running pass patterns and he knew when to throw the ball before the guy even made his cut, and at what distance, because he did that a number of times over and over and over and over again. Right. So he taught his nerves to fire and wire together. So back to when we started exercising. First thing is, okay, how much can you tolerate? Are you still too close to the edge of the cliff? Does it raise your heart rate too much? If it doesn't, then you can start doing things to raise your heart rate. Once you can raise your heart rate to 80% of max and you're not getting any symptoms, then you can start integrating head movement stuff in a sports specific thing. Like obviously basketball or baseball or hockey or football.
Excuse me, should I answer your question? Yeah.
[00:44:03] Speaker F: When I asked you about medium chain triglyceride oil, like a coconut oil?
[00:44:08] Speaker C: Oh, yes, coconut oil.
[00:44:10] Speaker F: Because we did that with her husband for Alzheimer's.
[00:44:16] Speaker C: Okay, let's take the other aspect. Will it cause harm drinking that stuff? The answer is absolutely not. So it's not going to cause harm. So now the question is, is it going to have some benefit? And the answer is. I've seen some patients get benefit out of that more in my non concussed patients. Patients with arthritic challenges, you know, in the aging population and patients that are worried about the dementia, Alzheimer's spectrum, they definitely get benefits out of that. No, I'm here to tell you, doc, here's one thing I'm not doing. I love coffee, but I'm not putting butter in my coffee. Sorry, I'm just. I can't. I can't do it.
[00:44:52] Speaker F: You're not a Dave Asprey fan, I see.
[00:44:54] Speaker C: No, no, I just can't. I'll eat a stick of butter, but don't put it in my coffee.
[00:44:59] Speaker F: All right, we're up against the break. I'm speaking with Dr. Evan Mladinov. We're having a great time. You're listening to Wellness 1280 on Open your eyes Radio. Pick up his book Doc, when can my kid play? Coming back from concussions. This is Dr. Kerry. Go. We'll be back after the break.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: I went to the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that this problem affects more than 40 of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease is getting worse. Perhaps it's getting worse because of kids prolonged time spent playing with smartphones or maybe because kids now spend less time outside. My genetics probably aren't helping her a whole lot being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called MySite. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the us. It is proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I Recommend you visit openyoureysradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn
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[00:48:28] Speaker F: Mladenoff and we're talking about concussion. His book doc, when can my kid play? So Dr. Mladenoff or Dr. M make it easier for me. What are some fears that patients have about concussions? I know for me as a parent, God forbid, if my kid had a concussion, I would want to know is he ever going to be the same?
[00:48:52] Speaker C: Absolutely. So this will be about a year ago we had a dad and a mom come in with her son and he had had three concussions in a short amount of time, about six months.
And when we went through our report of all the stuff we found, all the stuff we were going to work on, and they said, do you have any questions for me? And dad looked at me because the kid wanted to know when he could play. Dad looked at me and said, when am I getting, when, when am I going to get my son back? I just want my son back. This person sitting beside us is not my son. Tell us what we have to do to do that. And so parents have that fear after the okay, when can my kid play? And they realize that there's something wrong and they're not getting better. It's certainly not going to be life threatening.
So parents like if you or I had a concussion, right, our population age group is going to say, I don't want to be a burden on my family. It's like, what can I do? I don't want to be a burden on them the rest of my life. There's got to be something I can do that I can help myself. So that My family won't worry about me. And so these things play in people's minds. And so that's why I tell what school I'm from. And that is, you know, these are fears. So what is fear? And that's false evidence that appears real, right? So they. They create these fears in their mind because of the unknown. And so I'm here to tell you there are answers for concussions. You can get over a concussion, but there's a dirty secret.
You want to know what the dirty secret is?
Okay. So you ever heard of a guy named Zig Ziglar?
[00:50:34] Speaker F: Sure.
[00:50:35] Speaker C: This is. This is a business model. I took this room, I get to meet Zig Ziglar, and I learned a lot of business stuff from him way back when I was a young pup. So he wrote a book called see you at the top. And his concept was real simple. So say it with me, doc. What you conceive and believe you will achieve, right?
So if you're down the rabbit hole of oh, woe is me, I've got a headache. Nobody can help me. It's like, okay, guess what? You're gonna suffer a long time, but if you can conceive, listen, I know I can get better from this concussion. I don't know how, but I know there's somebody that can help me. And. And if you believe that, guess what?
The creator of the universe will send the right person to you somehow, some way. And once you conceive and believe it, you will achieve it. Stuff.
This may sound corny, but the stars will align for you. You know, I don't know if you ever experienced that with your patients. They say, you know, they'll start crying, and they say, doc, I've searched all over, where have you been all my life? And the answer is, you probably weren't ready to be here, right? And. And so. So that, to me, that's. The two biggest dirty secrets is, yes, there are answers for concussion. So if you. You got a bad knee, doc, and you go to an orthopod and he says, we need knee replacement surgery, and you say, I'm going to get a second opinion, and you go to another orthopod and you get an opinion, what do you have? You have the same opinion twice. You don't have a second opinion, right? They're both. They're both going to say, some form of knee surgery. It's like, okay, but maybe you should consider something else. So, again, what you conceive and believe you will achieve. And yes, someone has the answer out there. And Doc, I don't think it's an answer an accident. People are listening to the show today. Some people are looking for answers and I hope we gave a few answers.
[00:52:28] Speaker F: What percentage of people do you think do get better that have a concussion?
[00:52:33] Speaker C: That is an awesome question. Because when I ask patients to do things and change their lifestyle, some of them will do it until they're symptom free and then they bail on me. But then they'll come back a year later and say, doctor, starting to get back to headaches. Do you think I bailed too early on treatment? I said, well, let's just find out where you're at and see what you were like when you, the last time we examined you and what you're like now and have you regressed and have some of the concussion problems come back. So, you know, people that are, that are willing to commit to being better and, and I know you've seen this with your patients. Some patients, they say, you know, I'm not sure I'm in the right place. Your, your choir practice. I'm not sure about chiropractors. Yeah, I know you were on staff of the Kansas City Chiefs, but it's like, so, so I asked them, I said, okay, listen, let's do this. I want you to write down everything that you are unwilling to change in order to get better.
Tell me what you're, what you're never going to do. And because if I ask you to do that, that can make you better, you tell me you're not going to do it. It's like you're in the wrong place.
[00:53:39] Speaker F: So, so. But do you have a, any kind of statistic of the percentage of people?
[00:53:44] Speaker C: Yes, I would say if the patients, the patients that follow my instructions, even if it's not 100% to my recommendations, they're only 80%. I would say we have at least an 80 to 85% recovery rate.
[00:54:00] Speaker F: Now, the instructions that we talked about in the last segment, was there any instructions that you tell them to do that we didn't cover? You know, between the supplements, we talked about hyperbaric oxygen. You know, there's also eye exercises that neuro optometrists do to help with convergence, to help with, to help with accommodation. So there are special optometrists that deal in this type of work that help patients with concussions. And I've had them on my show at the Illinois College of optometry. You know, Dr. Len Mesner, Dr. Diane Fitzgerald. These are neuro optometrists who work with concussion Patients on the vision side of it, because 50% of the brain is dedicated to vision and there's a lot of vision symptoms. So is there anything that we didn't talk about that you do to help people get better that you should tell us now?
[00:54:53] Speaker C: Okay. When we finish our workup on a patient, sometimes it takes us four hours to examine everything in a patient. We literally create a chart. It's a bullseye of all the testing we did. And there's three rings in the bullseye. There's red, yellow, and green. And obviously we want all the test results to be in the green area, which means they're at, you know, normal or optimal level. And so, number one, it's very easy to visualize to the patient, well, oh, neuroinflammation is high. My vestibular vision is off and my vision is off, and then my balance is off and then my neck is off. And so after we get all that data, then we develop a multi dimensional approach. Because, you know, when you sit down to have dinner, how do you know it's a good dinner? Well, you could go to a 5 Michelin restaurant and you could say, God, that was like 500 bucks a pop and it was not really good. And you could go to, you know, the pancake house and have dinner and it would be really good. And so what's the difference? And the answer is part of the. The thing with your meal is the ambiance, you know, the music, the lighting, the wait staff, who you're with. Then there's the. It's not just the presentation of the food on the plate and the smell. Right? There's. It's a multi sensorial experience. Well, our body works the same way. You don't work in one dimension. So sometimes, some days we have to, excuse me. Do some traditional chiropractic work on their neck. Sometimes we have to do some osteopathy, cranial manipulation. Sometimes we have to do eye exercises. Sometimes. So we put together a multi dimensional approach of all the things that need to be done. And then we do that systematically so that I tell them, okay, listen, we got to do all these things on you, but should you do eye exercises? And the answer is we got to get you away from the edge of the cliff first. Right. So the fastest way to do that is usually getting that neuroinflammation down, getting cortisol down and getting oxygen up. So the first couple of weeks, we just may do some sub low level laser therapy and some acupuncture for the cortisol levels and some nutrients and some hyperbaric chamber and not do any structure work because again, we got to get them away from the edge of the.
[00:57:07] Speaker F: Cleft and in the last minute again, if you can review. When can the kids go back and play?
[00:57:13] Speaker C: Yeah, when they, when they can go back and play. If they can go from the resting heart rate and do all the physical things and get into a target heart range, let's just say resting heart rate is 60. If they can get their heart rate up to 140, not have any symptoms, if they can, then do, you know, sports specific stuff with head movement activities and don't get any symptoms, you know, that's probably a good indication that they'll be able to be fine to go back to play. But there's gradation of how they get there.
[00:57:43] Speaker F: And in the last 30 seconds I just want you to review what happens if they go back to.
[00:57:50] Speaker C: Well, if they go back too early, they always risk that second impact syndrome.
Fortunately in older people it's better but they risk prolonging the problems even if they don't have head contact. Remember, you don't have to hit your head to get a concussion.
[00:58:06] Speaker F: And in about. We got a couple seconds left. What is one thing that you want the audience to remember about concussions?
[00:58:15] Speaker C: Inch by inch. Concussion recovery is a cinch. Yard by yard, it's really hard. Mile by mile, it takes a while. Just have to start making little changes, little changes to get you away from the edge of the cliff. Get stuff working better.
Excuse me.
[00:58:31] Speaker F: I want to thank Dr. Latinoff for joining me today and sharing his expertise on concussion. His book, Doc, what can my kid play? Dr. Mladenoff, people want to buy the book. How can they do it? How could they find out more about you? How could they go to your clinic or your daughter's clinic in Arizona?
[00:58:51] Speaker C: Amazon.com Just search the name of the book. We're going to give Melissa a link that they can find out directly to the book. They'll find out about our one hour free seminar that we're going to do online in about a month and then if they want to become a patient, a link to our clinic.
[00:59:07] Speaker F: I want to thank Dr. Mladinoff for joining me today. This is Dr. Kerry Gel for Open youn Eyes Radio. We'll see you back next week.
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