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This is open your eyes radio with Doctor Kerry Gelb.
[00:00:40] Speaker C: Good morning, I'm Doctor Kerry Gelb and welcome to 1280 on open your eyes radio. Please listen as I discuss the newest information in the world of health, nutrition and sports every Saturday morning 06:00 a.m. central time on AM 1280, the Patriot. Also, please share your thoughts by emailing me at Dr. Kerrydobmail.com. that's dreadful. Kerrygelb mail.com and visit my new website, wellness 1000 280 dot. We have all our guest links wellness 1280 info and previous shows hosted there. Wellness is taking over the Patriot Airways for the next hour, so sit back and enjoy my conversation with Doctor Anna Rosa. A biomarker is a term that we use healthcare practitioners that may signify a disease or condition and can help plan or monitor treatment. Common biomarkers include blood tests, body imaging, eye imaging. With eye imaging, we see the little capillaries in the eye. It could tell us a lot about someone's vascular health and biopsies. Today's guest, Minnesota radiologist Anna Claudia Rosa. She's an MD and a PhD. Her PhD is in pancreatic cancer research. Doctor Roser is well published and a contributing author to imaging textbooks. Doctor Rose's passion is to help prevent early sickness and death using a simple, underutilized biomarker seen on MRIs called visceral fat. Doctor Rosa welcome to Wellness 1280 on open your eyes radio and I want to thank you for creating awareness of this powerful biomarker called visceral fat.
[00:02:25] Speaker D: Good morning everyone. Thank you so very much Doctor Carey for inviting me and let's discuss visceral fat, a biomarker of inflammation and chronic disease reversible, which I have learned with a good friend of mine, mentor and doctor Sean O'Meara.
[00:02:42] Speaker C: You know, I'm so excited to talk to you. We spoke on the podcast, we did a very in depth interview and we started off last time about different types of fats so people don't realize they're actually good fats and bad fats. I want to start off with a good fat, the subcutaneous fat that's superficial, that has to do with releasing adiponectin. So not all our fat. Not all our fat is bad. Can you talk to us about why that fat is good and where it's located?
[00:03:16] Speaker D: Absolutely. We do have different kinds of fat in our body. The subcutaneous fat is the fat that is just beneath your skin, in between your skin and your muscles, the muscles of your abdomen, your six pack. So the subcutaneous fat has two compartments. The superficial compartment is the superficial subcutaneous fat, and that's the fat that is positive for your body. It releases the substance. You just said a deponenecting and adiponectin is good for your cardiovascular system. Adiponectin improves insulin sensitivity, reduces inflammation, allows to reverse on that because it decreases blood sugar and allows better utilization of insulin and blood sugar. Then after the superficial subcutaneous fat, we have a fascia.
[00:04:10] Speaker C: Let me interrupt you first about the superficial subcutaneous fat, which you just mentioned is good, but a lot of people go in for liposuction. When you have liposuction, is that taking away this good fat, that's actually helpful for us?
[00:04:28] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. So that's why liposuction shouldn't be your procedure, your to go procedure, because you are removing deep subcutaneous fat, which is bad, but you are mainly removing superficial subcutaneous fat, which is beneficial for your body. Yes.
[00:04:47] Speaker C: So this superficial fat is important for insulin sensitivity, which helps decrease our risk for diabetes. It makes us more sensitive to glucose. We take glucose in, it helps us with lipid metabolism. So it's important. Now, there's another good fat that I wanna ask you about before we get into the bad fat. It's called brown fat, very common in babies, where it helps us maintain temperature.
I wanted to ask you this question when I knew you were coming on again, and I didn't ask you this last time. I always notice with babies because I've had three myself.
Well, my wife had them, but I always noticed babies don't seem to be affected much by temperature. And I was wondering if that is because of this brown fat.
[00:05:35] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. So, brown fat is a thermogenic fat. That means it produces heat for your body. It allows you to protect yourself from cold temperatures. Brown fat is mainly localized in between your shoulder blades, in your back. It's called interscapular region, and also around your kidney. Brown fat is located also deep here in your neck in the suprascapularis area.
So it is a fat that protects against cold. It is a fat that produces energy and is very activating mitochondria. And mitochondria is the cell that is the energy of our body. So, yes, brown fat definitely protects against cold. Brown fat increases your metabolism. Brown fat allows you as well, to improve your insulin sensitivity and the utilization of glucose, because in the end, it's increasing your metabolism. Yes.
[00:06:38] Speaker C: And we want to make us more sensitive to glucose. So the glucose isn't circulating around the body, attaching to proteins and something called glycation. Could you tell us about what that lication is?
[00:06:50] Speaker D: So the glucose connects to your cells, and that's how you utilize glucose in your body. So the glucose is used throughout your whole body, your brain, your muscles, your organs. And it's very important that when you eat a diet with carbs, that you have the signal from the cells that will release insulin, and the insulin will allow a better utilization of glucose from your cells. And what happens is, when you are eating too much carbs, especially due to this huge amount of processed foods, you are overloading your liver, you are overloading your pancreas, and you are increasing a lot your glucose in your blood sugar and leading to an extreme release of insulin. And then the insulin is not connecting very well to the receptors anymore because they are damaged due to the inflammation from the visceral fat. And that's when you have insulin resistance, and that's when you get inflammation in your whole body, because all these mechanisms of glycation and utilization of glucose and releasing of insulin are compromised because you have a lot of inflammation going on in your body.
[00:08:08] Speaker C: And is there a way to change bad fat into good brown fat?
[00:08:12] Speaker D: Yes. So the bad fat is the white fat. And you could activate, first of all, you could activate your deposits of brown fat in your body to kind of, like, wake up and just produce more brown fat and be activated. And also you can utilize transform your white fat in brown fat by exposing yourself to cold temperatures, like cold showers and cold plunges. So these kind of therapies, which are streis hormesis therapies, allow your body to transform white fat, brown fat. And that's what they are calling right now as bright fat because it's white to brown, and it also has the thermogenic capacity. Right. It increases your metabolism. It does not have. I'm sorry, I said it wrong. The bright fat, the white transformed to brown, does not have thermogenic capacity, but it increases your metabolism. And allows better utilization of glucose and insulin.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: I read a study that your solic acid could actually activate brown fat that we get from dried fruit. Now, I'm not sure if you buy that at all, but a lot of people like to eat dried fruit. It may have too much sugar in it, but it can, according to the study, change bad fat into brown fat. Can you comment on that?
[00:09:44] Speaker D: I would probably avoid that. I would probably prefer the natural exposure to cold because then you would be avoiding also the sugar from the dry fruit, which is bad for your body, right? Yeah.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: So let me ask you a question. I know me. I could go into sauna and we're going to talk about sauna in a little bit. Infrared sauna, which is really great for you, but how are you, can you get into a cold plunge?
[00:10:08] Speaker D: Yes, I do. I am doing it. Yes, I'm doing it three to four times a week and I'm loving it.
[00:10:14] Speaker C: This is Doctor Kerry Gell. We're speaking with Doctor Ana Claudia Rosa about fat. We'll be right back after the break.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: I went to the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that this problem affects more than 40% of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease getting worse. Perhaps it's getting worse because of kids prolonged time spent playing with smartphones, or maybe because kids now spend less time outside. My genetics probably aren't helping her a whole lot, being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called Mysight. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the US. It has proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I recommend you visit openyoureyesradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn
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[00:13:31] Speaker B: Eyes radio with doctor Carrie Gelb.
[00:13:33] Speaker C: We're back with Doctor Anna Rosa, radiologist. And we're talking about good fat, bad fat. And now we're going to talk about some bad fat. Now I want to ask you, how can we learn from radiology reports from mris about bad fat? What does it look like on an MRI? I know this is radio, but tell us a little about it and tell us what the patient should ask the radiologist to report to their regular doctor so they know about this type of fat.
[00:14:04] Speaker D: Unfortunately, this is very new for the medical field and we are not taught that in the medical schools. In fact, again, I want to give credit to my friend, doctor Sean O'Meara from Minnesota as well. He's an optimizing health physician. He's the one who taught me about visceral fat and all the horrible, damaging effects that it brings to our bodies. And, yeah, so we are not taught about visceral fat in medical school, and we do not learn to read visceral fat in the radiology reports. We do see visceral fat because as I read mris and cts every day, I can tell you that 95% of people have visceral fat, including the people who believe that they are skinny, which are the tofis? Thin outside and fat inside. And that's only one way to know if you are a tofi or not. It's having your MRI, because the MRI will tell you the anatomic distribution of your fat, the quantity and the quality. However, the radiologists are not trained yet to learn to describe visceral fat. Although, again, we see it so much every day in almost everybody. And visceral fat is the fat that you have inside your abdominal cavity that is surrounding all your organs. It's surrounding your bowel loops, your pancreas, your spleen, your kidneys, your liver, everything. It's the fat that makes your belly prominent and protuberant. It's the fat that makes your abdomen hard. And it's considered an endocrine organ producing molecules that create huge inflammation, 24/7 chronic in your body all the time. It's your silent enemy and silent killer just inside of you. The radiologist might not read that. However, you could follow me, you could follow doctor Sean O'Meara. He has taught me and he has taught his own clients and everyone who would be willing to check his videos about how to see visceral fat and how to, and how to revert it as well, because it's important to know that it's reversible. So you take action and you improve your health, and you improve your chronic diseases, and you get an optimal life.
[00:16:24] Speaker C: So how could people follow you? What's your Facebook? Is there a way to follow you?
[00:16:29] Speaker D: So I do have my Instagram account. It's called ana Rosa gratitude. Because gratitude is something that is very important in my life as well, since I am a widow. And I talk about grief as well. And on my Instagram, I talk about visceral fat and these strategies from Sean, my friend, and you could always research for him as well, doctor Sean O'Meara. And he has a YouTube channel and he has, like, Instagram and Facebook, and he is talking and teaching about visceral fat and his strategies to reverse them all the time. And I am using his strategies and I am feeling way better. And thank God I am getting my visceral fat reversed. And my chronic diseases, asthma, rosacea, and you name it, all getting better, thank God.
[00:17:19] Speaker C: So the National Science foundation says that it's the first thing to go wrong. And like you talked about, that this visceral fat is totally ignored by the healthcare system. So tell us about visceral fat and marblization. What does it do to the muscles in your body? The visceral fat.
[00:17:38] Speaker D: So visceral fat is, again, is the fat you have in your abdomen, inside your abdominal cavity. And it's inflammatory. And it's inflammatory the same way as the deep subcutaneous fat that you have, that your love handles. So visceral fat affects you, because when it produces inflammation, it is also increasing cortisol, it's increasing molecules that increase the chances of you having cancer, prediabetes, diabetes, liver disease. And the marblization is when your muscles start being replaced by fat and they start being replaced by fat first because of a process of aging, we all get like less muscles while we are aging. If we don't take action and put them to exercise, which is called sarcopenia, and the sedentary way that we live, and the processed foods and the inflammation, the inflammation in your body also lead to your muscles. It's all a cascade of inflammation. That's how the doctors call a cascade of inflammation that is happening in your whole body. So in your brain, you are more prone to develop Alzheimer and dementia, which is now called diabetes type three. And then in your liver, you have fatty liver and inflammation and cirrhosis. And then in your pancreas, prediabetes, diabetes, replacement by fat. And then in your heart, you have the heart surrounded by fat. And lots of people nowadays have atrial fibrillation. And there are lots of studies showing that many of the atrial fibrillation cases are related to the fat surrounding your heart and compromising the electrical activity of your heart cells. And then in the muscles, you have the replacement by fat.
[00:19:32] Speaker C: So you talked about sarcopenia, okay. You know, as people get older, they lose muscle. So not to lose the muscle and become, and get the muscles become marbleized, exercise is very important. What kind of exercise do you recommend to try to prevent or if you want to have visceral fat? Because we know most of us have it, 95% of us have it to reverse this visceral fat.
[00:19:57] Speaker D: So I would say walking, walking at least 10,000 steps a day. I know it is hard, but you got to choose your hard. Either you want to be walking or you want to end up without muscles in a wheelchair. So choose your hard and you start slowly and then you increase until you have 10,000 steps a day. Definitely sprinting again, if you are overweight and if you are older and if you are not exercising for a while, you have to start slowly. And Shan teaches the technique of sprinting, but mainly is you are on an uphill and you start slowly and then you increase the speed and you sprint for 10 seconds, maybe six times, and create your own rhythm and respect your body. You don't want to overdo because then you're going to just give up and you don't want to give up. And also high intensity interval training, which is very important when you are stressed. It's also a stress hormesis technique. When you do push ups, pull ups, until your failure, you are releasing your own stress from other activities, like as if you are a caveman running from the lion, like Shan says. And one very important exercise that people are talking everywhere is strength training, because then you're going to improve your muscles, you're going to improve your bone density, and it's very connected to memory and cognition as well. And sprinting also improve your muscles and improve your bone density, right? Yes.
[00:21:32] Speaker C: So for people that are listening to this who can't sprint, maybe they have some hamstring issues. Chronic hamstring, chronic Achilles issues. You mentioned high intensity training. So is it okay for them to go on an exercise bike, something that's not as intense as sprinting, and go as fast as they can, maybe start off for 5 seconds and then try to get increased to 10 seconds and then goes slow for a minute and a half. And what do you think about that way of doing it?
[00:22:00] Speaker D: Definitely. In fact, I have a book. Give me 1 second.
[00:22:04] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:22:05] Speaker D: I have a book here and it's a sprint. It's a sprint book. It's called sprint cardio.
Maximum results, minimum type from Theo Campbell. So he teaches, I haven't finished yet, I'm reading, but he teaches how you can do sprint by in a stationary bike, in an elliptical, in a row machine. So you can do sprinting in different kinds of exercise equipments. Of the probably, most likely the sprinting with you running, not running, doing the sprinting by standing up is probably better. But all of them have maximum results in minimum type and he in minimum time. And he teaches you how to do it, like the 10 seconds and then stop. And then the main thing is like when you are stopping, when you are, you do your sprint, do not stop, just keep doing something very slow to recover your heart rate and to recover your breathing and then do it again. So it's like, and you could do it in a stationary bike as well. Or a rowing machine or an elliptical machine.
[00:23:21] Speaker C: And the author is Phil Campbell. Is that it? Campbell?
[00:23:25] Speaker D: Phil Campbell. C a M as in Mary. P as in papa. B as in brother. E as in elephant. Ll as in Lima.
[00:23:34] Speaker C: Okay, thank you for that. I know our audience will be very interested in that. And I want to get back to visceral fat for a second. So we have, you know, back in the seventies, you see pictures, they always post these pictures of people on the beach and everybody's thin. Everybody has this big belly. Especially men walk around with this big belly. Now people have to understand that big belly is an endocrine gland. It's just releasing poisons into the body. Is that correct?
[00:24:01] Speaker D: Yes. Like I mentioned, the visceral fat is now considered, is similar as an endocrine organ. So like the pancreas or producing hormones, right. So it's producing inflammatory substances. It's inside your belly. It's your silent enemy. And it's this big belly that you're talking about. So it's easy to measure if you are getting better, if you lay down on the floor and measure from the floor up to the level of your belly button. Cause the belly that is protuberant is visceral fat. The belly that gets flattened is more likely subcutaneous fat. So visceral fat produces these inflammatory molecules. Visceral fat produces tumor factor necrosis, which is a substance that allows your body, allows your body. It's a bad thing to say that leads to cancer development in your body. And also like molecules, inflammatory molecules, interlelsin one, interlelsin six. You guys don't need to know about that. But yes.
[00:25:04] Speaker C: So we're talking with doctor Anna Rosa. This is doctor Kerry Gell for open Uraj radio. Go to my website wellness 1280 dot. We'll be right back.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: I went to the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that this problem affects more than 40% of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease is getting worse. Perhaps its getting worse because of kids prolonged time spent playing with smartphones or maybe because kids now spend less time outside my genetics. Probably arent helping her a whole lot being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called Mysite. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the US, it has proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I recommend you visit openyoureyesradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn
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[00:27:29] Speaker A: To the eye doctor the other day with my daughter Maggie. I was shocked when the doctor told me that my daughter was already becoming nearsighted. It turns out that problem affects more than 40% of Americans. My eye doctor thinks this disease is getting worse. Perhaps it's getting worse because of kids prolonged time spent playing with smartphones, or maybe because kids now spend less time outside. My genetics probably aren't helping her a whole lot, being nearsighted myself. But the good news is that the doctor told me about a new FDA approved product called Mysite. This specific one day contact lens is already worn by thousands of children in the US. It has proven to slow down the progression of nearsightedness. And best of all, Maggie loves these contact lenses. The doctor taught her how to use them. Now it is so exciting to see her have even more success in the classroom and when she plays sports. I recommend you visit openyoureyesradio.com to find an eye doctor that specializes in this treatment program. Learn
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[00:28:30] Speaker B: Eyes radio with Doctor Carrie Gelb.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: We're back with Doctor Anna Rose, a radiologist. And before the break, we were talking a little bit about exercise and something that I didn't bring up. But jogging is actually bad compared to sprinting. If you could explain the difference why jogging increases how it increases cortisol and how it actually increases visceral fat versus sprinting, which decreases visceral fat.
[00:28:57] Speaker D: So jogging, running, any kind of cardiovascular exercise that it's long, long duration, leads your body to a chronic stress. So the chronic stress is when you release cortisol. So this kind of exercise, in fact is detrimental to you because it's releasing cortisol, it's increasing your stress and it's leading to increasing your visceral fat, which is the fat that is inflammatory in your abdomen and the inflammation goes through all your body. Also, when you are running or jogging, you are using specific kind of fibers in your muscles called slow twitch fibers. These fibers, they are ones that in the end, together with the inflammation will allow your muscles to be, in the future replaced and replaced by fat and developing sarcopenia. And that's really well explained here in this book. Again, the sprint eight cardio protocol. I don't have any affiliation with the book, I just learned from it and it explains better than I am explaining right now with more details, then you would have more time to learn more. While sprinting is like, again, I stress hormesis technique like the cold water and the sauna. So sprinting leads to a short spur of cortisol that will in fact teach your body to deal with the stress and decrease your stress and decrease your visceral fat and decrease your cortisol. And is also working on fast twitch fibers of your muscles, which allow you to build the muscle that you need to walk and stand up and be having a functional, independent body, like the body to carry the grocery bags when you go, when you age, or the body to sit in your couch and be able to stand up. And the musculature that is the pervertebral musculature that help you to keep your posture with your heads up, not really like with an increased hump and even your bones getting broken. Right. With age because of osteopenia.
[00:31:21] Speaker C: And there's something with menopause. As women go through menopause, if you're doing the wrong type of exercise, can you just explain that?
[00:31:30] Speaker D: Yes. So in menopause we get more sensitive to stress, so we get more sensitive to cortisol. So many of the researches before that would tell a woman who is gaining weight or changing the distribution of fat in her body and getting more fat in the area, the waist area, the prior researchers would say, oh, you have to eat less and exercise more. In fact, no, because if you eat less and exercise more, you are increasing stress in your body. So you are getting more and more visceral fat and inflammation. What you have to do is exercises that will allow yourself to decrease the stress. So you want to do walking again, the 10,000 steps. You want to stack strategies. While you are walking, enjoy the sun. Or while you are walking, walk barefoot on your grass, and you are grounding and releasing the energy. You also want to do the sprinting, which is short spurs of cortisol, teaching your body to handle stress and the strength training. Strength training is very important for women because strength training, again, build muscles and build bones and are important for your memory and your cognitive health, health of your brain, your cognition in not developing Alzheimer. And you do not want to do high intensity interval trainings very much if you are in menopause, because, again, it's very stressful. So maybe you could do that once a week. But the main thing is walking, sprinting, and the strength training for menopause.
[00:33:12] Speaker C: And remember, for people listening, always check with your doctor first before you follow any of our instructions. Now we want to go back to other types of fat, bad fat. I want to talk about deep subcutaneous fat. Below the fascia that we talked about. Fascia is connective tissue that keeps our organs, that keeps our organs stable inside the body.
Deep subcutaneous fat. And it's really important to get rid of this deep subcutaneous fact, because it's associated with a type of liver cancer.
And for people that suffer from diverticulosis, that really suffer, they need to get rid of this type of fat. Talk to us about deep subcutaneous fat and why it's bad. And is it really much different than visceral fat, or is it just in a different place in the body?
[00:34:04] Speaker D: You just said it. It's similar.
It's the same inflammatory fat from visceral fat. It's just located in a different area of your body. So you have the beneficial subcutaneous fat, which is the superficial, and then you have the fascia separating the compartment, and then you have the deep subcutaneous fat, which is your love handles, and the deep subcutaneous fat, and then the visceral fat and other areas that you have, ectopic fat, like surrounding your heart. This kind of fat is the fat that is very, very bad for your body. It's inflammatory, high inflammatory.
It increases the risk of cardiovascular disease, such as infarcts and heart attacks, increases the risk of stroke, leads to vascular disease in your legs too. So then you have, like, calcification in your arteries, in your heart, calcification in the arteries of your brain, calcification in the arteries of your whole body. And the inflammation also increases the incidence of Alzheimer's, prediabetes, diabetes, fatty liver. The fatty liver gets inflamed, the inflammation evolves to fibrosis, which is a way of trying the body trying to heal, like this car tissue in your liver. And then this fibrosis, this scar tissue, might progress to cirrhosis, which is an end stage form of liver disease, and that could develop liver cancer. So one thing that it's very important to see, for example, dementia. Dementia, which has been called now diabetes mellitus type three. The changes in your brain start, like ten to 15 years before you have the first symptoms of losing your memory. So dementia is deposits of protein in your brain that are inflammatory, driven. They were created because they are created also because the inflammation from your visceral fat. So reversing visceral fat decreases the chances of having dementia as well. There is a horrible projection, very scary, that by 2050, 50% of the elderly people will have dementia. Imagine that. It's one in two. And I'm like, I'm not signing for that. And I hope none of us are signing for that. And we can reverse this, this number together by reversing visceral fat and getting more active. Yes.
[00:36:44] Speaker C: And how many people would you say get this type of liver cancer because of this subcutaneous fat?
[00:36:51] Speaker D: So it's not because of the subcutaneous fat. The subcutaneous fat is a factor that is contributing, but it's because of the inflammation from the subcutaneous fat together with the inflammation from the. The visceral fat together mainly. What causes mainly is the fat in your liver cells. So it's called non alcoholic fatty liver disease because your liver gets full of fat and it's not related to drinking habits, it's not related to alcohol. So I do not have these numbers today, but it's increasingly getting like. It's getting exponentially increasing in number because it's exponentially increasing together with obesity and together with visceral fat. And there is. I know that there is a projection and I had this number written, but I don't have here in my store.
[00:37:47] Speaker C: It's like twelve, you know, it's like 12 million.
I think it's 12 million deaths. 12,000 deaths per year.
[00:37:55] Speaker D: Yes. Because there. It's becoming a huge problem. It's becoming a huge problem. And it has, and there are some researchers that are worried because it might be causing liver cancer in the future more than liver cancer that is caused by viral infection, hepatitis B or C.
[00:38:13] Speaker C: So yes, talk to me about ectopic fat. How is that different? Or is it different? It's in that it could be in the blood vessels surrounding the heart, in the liver, pancreas. Is it different or it's just the same thing again in a different place?
[00:38:28] Speaker D: Again, it's the same thing in a different place. So you have ectopic fat with inflammatory inflammatory characteristics surrounding your heart. And we can see that with the MRI as well. And then you have ectopic fat in your liver, which is the fatty liver. And you have ectopic fat replacing your pancreas by fat and everything. All of this could be seen by MRI and you have the ectopic fat replacing your muscles which is the marbleization of the muscles and the developing progressive sarcopenia. Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker C: And what type of MRI should people ask for if they want to find out if they have this visceral fat?
[00:39:09] Speaker D: So you should want to do an MRI of your abdomen. It's the upper abdomen. It's an MRI of your abdomen without intravenous contrast. There is no need for intravenous contrast. If you are evaluating, if you are searching only the visceral fat, if you do have any other issues like pancreas or liver issues, you should discuss with your doctor because then it might be beneficial if you would have an MRI with intravenous contrast. But again, the intravenous contrast increases some of the risk of allergy, which is extremely rare. But you have to check your renal function if you have renal problems like diabetes or transplant kidney or something. So mainly the without contrast would be the way to go.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: This is Doctor Kerry Gelb and we're speaking with Doctor Anna Rosa and we're learning about visceral fat. When we get back, we're going to look at the causes and how we're going to reverse it. We'll be right back. Doctor Kerry Gelb for open your eyes. Radio on am 1280. The Patriots.
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[00:43:29] Speaker C: Anna Rosa, radiologist, who's teaching us about the dangers of visceral fat. So, Hannah, the time has come what causes the visceral fat? And we're going to go over all types of strategies to get rid of it. So probably the causes, we're going to reverse the causes. So tell us, what causes visceral fat?
[00:43:48] Speaker D: So, visceral fat. Visceral fat is caused because of an excess of carbohydrates in our diet. So as humans, we do not need carbohydrates in our diets for our bodies to functionally function well. We do need protein, and we do need lipids or fat. So what happens is when you eat too much, the processed foods and the sugar and all these carbs, it's overloading your liver, it's overloading your pancreas. And your body has a mechanism called homeostasis to keep the equilibrium in your body. So what it does, it starts using all this fat and sugar and glucose and sending it to your fat cells. In the beginning, it increases in size. When it overloads the size, it's going to increase in number. So you start increasing the size of your fat cells and then the number of your fat cells. But when this is happening, the number or the size, if you are already, like, igniting a cascade of inflammation in your body, because for that, the body is needing to increase vascularization, and this inflammation starts increasing cortisol, and your blood sugar starts to being elevated all the time, which is the prediabetes condition. And then you start producing insulin, and you produce more insulin. And you produce more insulin, and it's not responding anymore. And that's when you have insulin resistance. And insulin resistance is one of the root causes of all this inflammation that is triggered. And it just becomes a snowball effect. And then you start depositing fat in your liver, depositing fat in your pancreas, depositing fat around your heart, all these ectopic areas of fat. And that's how the visceral fat is formed. And then the inflammation from the visceral fat leads to more production of visceral fat. And it's one cycle that is this cycle. Yeah.
[00:45:52] Speaker C: I have a list of things that I think cause visceral fat. Give me a yay and a if you agree. So we know sugar is increases. How about artificial sweeteners? Does that increase that? Does seed oils, vegetables, seed oils, definitely.
[00:46:08] Speaker D: Very, very damaging to your body.
[00:46:11] Speaker C: Now, are they good oils such as olive oil, coconut oil or avocado oil? Are they good or bad? I know the rest of them. The seed oils are bad.
[00:46:21] Speaker D: Butter, definitely. Butter.
[00:46:23] Speaker C: And lard as good or bad?
[00:46:25] Speaker D: Good.
[00:46:27] Speaker C: Okay, so those are good, those five.
[00:46:29] Speaker D: Yes. Olive, avocado, coconut butter and lard.
[00:46:33] Speaker C: So, but when we're looking at the.
[00:46:35] Speaker D: Soy oils or the peanut oils, very inflammatory driven.
[00:46:40] Speaker C: Right. Soy oils that they make food with. How about alcohol?
[00:46:44] Speaker D: Very, very damaging for your body. Yes.
[00:46:47] Speaker C: How about dairy?
[00:46:49] Speaker D: So dairy.
Some people can eat some dairy and not have much inflammation, but it's for the, for the visceral fat reversal, you have to choose your dairy. So the fermented ones, you are going to choose fermented cheeses, you are going to choose fermented milk, fermented kefir, yogurts that are natural but not greek ones. You do not want greek yogurts. You do not want milk. You do not want almond or coconut milk. So, yeah, stay away from these ones because they are inflammatory driven as well. And all these things that I'm saying, again, you should definitely search for my friend Sean O'Meara, and you're going to learn so much and build a healthy body and healthy life.
[00:47:34] Speaker C: How about raw cheese from raw milk, you know?
[00:47:37] Speaker D: Yes. Yeah, raw milk. Yes, yes, yes.
[00:47:40] Speaker C: We want to stay away from environmental chemicals, right?
[00:47:42] Speaker D: Chemicals, absolutely. Yeah.
[00:47:44] Speaker C: Trans fats, of course.
[00:47:46] Speaker D: Absolutely bad. Yes.
[00:47:48] Speaker C: MSG and GMO's bad. Bad. Fried foods bad?
[00:47:56] Speaker D: Well, high sodium is bad, but you have to have your salt intake. So it's very important to have your mineral salt intake. Again, I do not have any affiliation, but the salt that, it's really good, it's the Redmond salt because it's a mineral salt. We do need that because we don't have that much in our foods anymore. And you want to replace sodium with electrolytes as well because you want a clear source of water without chlorine and without the toxins that water have. So you want distilled water or you want mineral water, natural water, spring water. Or you want to have a reverse osmosis system for the water you are drinking only. It's way cheaper if you do. Just for the water you are drinking and then you reintroduce the electrolytes, which will have the sodium. Yeah.
[00:48:48] Speaker C: I did a podcast with Doctor Joseph Pisano on environmental chemicals. So we want to stay away from those plastic bottles. We have a reverse osmosis filter in our house, which I do. I fill it up in glass. And it's a lot cheaper than buying bottled water anyway. Yeah, and much cheaper and better. Now, as far as reversal goes, we want to get out in the sun. Explain why that's good for us.
[00:49:13] Speaker D: Yes. First I want to say one thing. Sometimes we believe investing in a reverse osmosis filter.
I have one only for my sink. I do have a treatment of water from the water. I shower and wash my dishes, but it's not reverse osmosis. So I have only one for my sink.
[00:49:33] Speaker C: Like a cobalt, right?
[00:49:34] Speaker D: Yes, yes. See your health as an investment, it's not an expense, because if you do not spend time and money taking care of your life and your wellness, you're going to definitely spend time and money with illness. Right. So sun. Sun is very important because again, is one of the stress hormesis. And if you are able to check the sunrise and the sunset without any barriers, without glasses, without doors or windows for three minutes, when it's not hurting your eye, you have to be very careful and wise on that. If you're looking at the sun and it's hurting your eye, of course you don't want to burn your eyes. Right. So you have to look at the sun. Yeah.
[00:50:18] Speaker C: So we don't want to look at the sun.
[00:50:19] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:50:20] Speaker C: Fasting. How about fasting?
[00:50:21] Speaker D: But again, sun is good because it helps with the circadian rhythm and the sleeping. Right. And sleep seven to 8 hours a night is very important for reversing visceral fat and controlling your stress.
Fasting. Fasting is a technique that you should also develop slowly but surely. Because again, you don't want to do a fasting that you are sluggish, because then you're going to give up. So you do need. You could do a fasting that you develop progressively and it increases the autophagy, which is getting rid of the dead cells and getting rid of the bad cells in your body. And you could do 18 hours, 24 hours, up to 72 hours, and Sean does 96, but I do up to 72.
And it's really good for your health as well.
[00:51:07] Speaker C: But when you're doing up to 72, you have to still have some juices, okay. Or water.
[00:51:12] Speaker D: So I do not drink juice because juice has lots of sugar. But you could have water, you could have tea, you could have without sugar. Right? So you could have electric, you should have electrolytes. You could drink the fermented drinks. You know, the ones that if you have pickles or if you have, you could drink that, especially because you might feel tired and weak. But yes. And again, if you start feeling tired and weak, that's probably a signal that you should stop. And then the next time you go a little bit longer, but build slowly, like sprinting or anything else builds or walking, build slowly. So then it decreases the stress instead of creating stress.
[00:51:55] Speaker C: So I'm going to summarize a little bit to reverse visceral fat. And so we said, we talked about sunshine. We want to decrease depression. We want to increase our microbiome. The gut. The good, good gut bacteria.
[00:52:09] Speaker D: Fermented foods.
[00:52:10] Speaker C: Fermented foods. Right. We could get that in whole foods. They have a fermented food aisle.
Organic fruits and vegetables, if you want to stay away from pesticides.
But grass fed meat is okay, is that correct?
[00:52:24] Speaker D: Grass fed grass, finished meat, pasture raised eggs. Yes.
[00:52:29] Speaker C: That's all good. How about I mentioned at the beginning, sauna. Tell me about sauna. Are you okay with infrared sauna to help us?
[00:52:38] Speaker D: So I do not do infrared sauna. I follow my, my friend Shan again, and he explains his reasoning for doing the traditional sauna, the finnish sauna. And that's the one I have. And that's the one I do the infrared. Some people believe it might be good. I just prefer to follow his advice and do the traditional one. And it's really good. It has been proven that if you do 15 minutes three times a week, you are already like, decreasing inflammation in your body and improving longevity. But I am a firm advocate of. It's not about improving the years in my life, it's about improving the quality of these years because. Yeah.
[00:53:24] Speaker C: So I want to thank Doctor Anarosa for joining me today.
She's a wealth of information.
You can listen to her again on wellness 1280 dot and look for my movie. Open your eyes on all the podcast channels and my podcast. Doctor Kerry. Gulp. Open your eyes. Doctor Anna Rosa, thank you for joining me today.
[00:53:47] Speaker D: Thank you so very much for having me. And again, you guys should follow my friend Sean O'Meara. He is the guru and I am the voice for him.
[00:53:55] Speaker C: And where can we follow you?
[00:53:57] Speaker D: You could follow me on Instagram. Anarosa, gratitude.
[00:54:00] Speaker C: Thank you so much. Thank you, doctor Rosa, for joining us today. We'll be back next week with another great interview. This is doctor Kerry Yelpo open your eyes across America, the billboard people.
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